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i have be asked to testify whether or not psycho paths have affective deficits. absolutely they do. there has been hundreds of years of psychiatric research shows that they do. you have this two prong thing. on the one hand more dangerous if you release them and don't treat them. on the other hand, they're affectively different. there was a very nice article in the "new york times" magazine on mother's day about children who have these emerging traits and how we would develop and understand and treat them. it's a small percentage. my goal is to develop better treatment so they can keep them off that trajectory towards life course persistent problems. >> are you saying that people that have the brain structure that you have identified will always be lacking in volitional control or impulse receive to the extent that they are criminals? do we have a subset of people that are criminals because of their brains? >> i should really differentiate psychopathy from criminality. there are a lot of reasons why individuals engage in different criminal activity. it's a very small percentage of p
i have be asked to testify whether or not psycho paths have affective deficits. absolutely they do. there has been hundreds of years of psychiatric research shows that they do. you have this two prong thing. on the one hand more dangerous if you release them and don't treat them. on the other hand, they're affectively different. there was a very nice article in the "new york times" magazine on mother's day about children who have these emerging traits and how we would develop and...
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[inaudible] with more trillion dollar deficits forecast in years to come. despite the extraordinary steps to do with a great recession, deficit as a share of the economy has actually decreased every year for the last three years. 10% of gdp in 2009, 7% gdp today. the source is not the democratic national committee, but "investor's business daily." they said believe that or not, the federal deficits smaller over the past three years and it hasn't any stretch since demobilization after world war ii. outside of the post-world war ii era, the on than the up deficit has fallen faster is when the economy we left in 1937, during the great depression into -- [inaudible] u.s. district offers, testing the speed limit of the fiscal consolidation does and backfire. >> i really go back to simpson-bowles. i think they had it right put. repeat, everything on the table. not only taxes, but spending cuts and entitlement reform. let me speak about each of them. first when it comes to revenue, so many people in the business community and outside have talked about simpson-bowl
[inaudible] with more trillion dollar deficits forecast in years to come. despite the extraordinary steps to do with a great recession, deficit as a share of the economy has actually decreased every year for the last three years. 10% of gdp in 2009, 7% gdp today. the source is not the democratic national committee, but "investor's business daily." they said believe that or not, the federal deficits smaller over the past three years and it hasn't any stretch since demobilization after...
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we had a significant deficit. but the long term looked possible if we could solve the sshort-term problems. that was easier. in 1990, the parties were competitive, but they were not polarized. in those days, the bad guys were the opposition. today, they are the enemy. there is a world of difference between those two words. yes, we had some distrust. also, we had the ability to work with each other and believe each other and it made life easier at that time. there were other divisions in the congress. the party polarization today tends to make it republicans versus democrats all the way. there were other sub factions in those days. the budgeteers verses the appropriators, etc., that cut across some of those party lines. the most important difference, in my judgment, is that there was less outside pressure upon the negotiators from the radio and tv extremists, lobbyists, core constituencies, users of social media, etc. mostl they did not get 500 e-mails every minute in their office. they did not have people featurin
we had a significant deficit. but the long term looked possible if we could solve the sshort-term problems. that was easier. in 1990, the parties were competitive, but they were not polarized. in those days, the bad guys were the opposition. today, they are the enemy. there is a world of difference between those two words. yes, we had some distrust. also, we had the ability to work with each other and believe each other and it made life easier at that time. there were other divisions in the...
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us into these deficits. as the chairman just said -- social security has never contributed one penny to these deficits. why to cut the benefits of seniors on social security to pay for the misspending and bad ideas of previous congresses, i do not understand. that is what we are adamant about social security -- use it to buy down a debt created by other things? no. on medicare, if you all just take a close look at the record, a lot of democrats lost their seats because of republicans politicizing this issue. democrats have already come to the table $700 billion in savings in medicare already. we have reformed medicare through be affordable care act, and much of it is doubling to play out. $700 billion -- that is a lot. i have not seen any republicans come forward with a proposal that saves you $700 billion. we did that without having to cut any benefits for beneficiaries who earned as benefits. that was the beauty of the reforms we passed -- we found ways to extract savings, principally from waste and fraud,
us into these deficits. as the chairman just said -- social security has never contributed one penny to these deficits. why to cut the benefits of seniors on social security to pay for the misspending and bad ideas of previous congresses, i do not understand. that is what we are adamant about social security -- use it to buy down a debt created by other things? no. on medicare, if you all just take a close look at the record, a lot of democrats lost their seats because of republicans...
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what the hell do you think a $1 trillion deficit is? once people wake up as to what is really coming, they will savage us and the commission. do not think these interest groups are not whoring it out right now. >> we came from the witness protection program. [laughter] >> it is tough to tell people what is going on when you have a presidential debate and during the course of that, no one asked anybody what they were going to do about the long-term solvency and social security for 75 years. if you do nothing, which is the glorious recommendation of the aarp and other senior groups, that in the year 2031, you will waddle up to the window and get a check for 25% less. who is goofy enough to let that happen? plenty of people. you have never heard a single question, what will you do with a $16 trillion debt? a question i thought was rather significant. >> the word fiscal cliff was never mentioned by candidates or one of the moderators in the debates. every day, we have a countdown. we already elected the guy. it has to be dealt with on its o
what the hell do you think a $1 trillion deficit is? once people wake up as to what is really coming, they will savage us and the commission. do not think these interest groups are not whoring it out right now. >> we came from the witness protection program. [laughter] >> it is tough to tell people what is going on when you have a presidential debate and during the course of that, no one asked anybody what they were going to do about the long-term solvency and social security for 75...
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the deficit is large. where's the rest of his plan? he has to show us his plan. house members would like to extend all current tax rates permanently. that brings certainly the to the economy. get a subsequent bill for the sequestration. work with president obama in a good faith effort to get pro growth tax reform. that would work. we've got the ryan budget that spends $7 trillion less than the president's budget. that would restore the confidence that the economy needs. >> greta: senator, thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: with time running out, you would think that president obama would call the house and senate leaders and ask them to the oval office, but apparently something is wrong with the white house phones. he's trying to outsource the job to you. take a look. >> i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress, write them an email, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using the #my2k. >> greta: why doesn't the president pick
the deficit is large. where's the rest of his plan? he has to show us his plan. house members would like to extend all current tax rates permanently. that brings certainly the to the economy. get a subsequent bill for the sequestration. work with president obama in a good faith effort to get pro growth tax reform. that would work. we've got the ryan budget that spends $7 trillion less than the president's budget. that would restore the confidence that the economy needs. >> greta: senator,...
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job creation is essential to reducing the deficit. we firmly believe if you want to reduce the deficit, create jobs. you can grow the economy and reduce the deficit. it's all together. and that is attested to by every bipartisan task force, commission, you name it, that has come together. you can't get there from here in terms of deficit reduction and fiscal soundness without having revenues be on the table. i'd like to yield to the assistant leader for his comments. >> thank you, madame leader. i think that this meeting was very, very fruitful. it simply reminds us -- >> we are listening to commentary after nancy pelosi's meeting with timothy geithner. as you heard, ms. pelosi continuing to stick to her guns in terms of raising revenue as well as spending cuts. we don't have the clarity this market is looking for. that is, where will the cuts be? where will the revenue be? we're still waiting on compromise. as soon as we get some indication of that compromise, we'll bring it to you. maybe there's hope, meanwhile, for the twinkie. hos
job creation is essential to reducing the deficit. we firmly believe if you want to reduce the deficit, create jobs. you can grow the economy and reduce the deficit. it's all together. and that is attested to by every bipartisan task force, commission, you name it, that has come together. you can't get there from here in terms of deficit reduction and fiscal soundness without having revenues be on the table. i'd like to yield to the assistant leader for his comments. >> thank you, madame...
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we need to be creating jobs, not trying to cut the deficit. there is a time for that. we need jobs. >> tavis, good to see you, and you have a very famous voice. you were just on -- >> well, it is not that english thing you have, though. >> obviously, mine is much more. >> and coming up, something with a memorable voice, a lottery queen herself. we'll talk powerball. she has the name millions know and love, please reveal your name to us. >> i am yolanda vega. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ and the next great idea could be yours. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hyb
we need to be creating jobs, not trying to cut the deficit. there is a time for that. we need jobs. >> tavis, good to see you, and you have a very famous voice. you were just on -- >> well, it is not that english thing you have, though. >> obviously, mine is much more. >> and coming up, something with a memorable voice, a lottery queen herself. we'll talk powerball. she has the name millions know and love, please reveal your name to us. >> i am yolanda vega. but,...
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oh my goodness deficit deficit deficit, fix the tax code, and what are they proposing lowering their own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and write it off in their taxes, $20 million a year ceos from these corporations, and continue to spread the hysteria and--and if their plan goes through, the austerity plan, they and their company and their bonuses are actually the only thing that is going to improve in this economy. >> eliot: as they have over the past couple of years. income disparity is worse and worse and incomes are going up. lloyd blankfein telling people that they people should not expect to work for 25 years and then retire for 30. i don't think he understands what social security is all about. >>> the hispanic caucus said no tod
oh my goodness deficit deficit deficit, fix the tax code, and what are they proposing lowering their own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and...
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without adding a dime to the deficit, by the way. in fact, if done right, tax reform will increase revenues by spurring growth, job creation and therefore bigger tax receipts. tax reform is both a fiscal and competitive necessity for our country. it has been more than 25 years since we substantially reformed the tax code. twice as long, about 50 years since we did a bottom-up review of our international tax laws. the world has changed a lot in that time period and yet america has not kept up. the underlying assumptions in our tax code are frankly out of step with the complexities of today's global economy. this is especially evident in our corporate tax code. on the domestic side of our corporate tax code, the u.s. has become the highest tax rate country among all the developed countries in the world. so canada just lowered their rate from 16.5% to 15%. our rate is 39.2% when you combine the state and federal burden. federal burden 35%. state burden closer to 5%, 6%. so right now, the average among all the developed countries in the
without adding a dime to the deficit, by the way. in fact, if done right, tax reform will increase revenues by spurring growth, job creation and therefore bigger tax receipts. tax reform is both a fiscal and competitive necessity for our country. it has been more than 25 years since we substantially reformed the tax code. twice as long, about 50 years since we did a bottom-up review of our international tax laws. the world has changed a lot in that time period and yet america has not kept up....
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deficits that are unsustainable. i hope at the end of this year that -- congress will extend the middle class for 98% of americans, but let the tax cuts on that 2% expire. host: william mcbride, is the payroll tax cut a side issue? guest: it was front and center a year ago. it was debated in stages. we had a two month extension last year at this time. we had a protracted debate that picked up again in february and was extended again for the rest of the year. that was an major push by the president. it is a major deal. it is more than $100 billion a year, the estimate is $125 billion a year. that is more than 10% of the deficit. these are big numbers. it is an unprecedented policy, to start it two years ago and prior to that time -- the first time it was passed it was for one year. it was debated again last year. we did not play around politically with the payroll tax to much. nothing like we did with the income tax. it is rather unprecedented, cuts in to a program that was posted a dedicated to social security -- sup
deficits that are unsustainable. i hope at the end of this year that -- congress will extend the middle class for 98% of americans, but let the tax cuts on that 2% expire. host: william mcbride, is the payroll tax cut a side issue? guest: it was front and center a year ago. it was debated in stages. we had a two month extension last year at this time. we had a protracted debate that picked up again in february and was extended again for the rest of the year. that was an major push by the...
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he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax reform you broaden out debate like an 82-year-o 82-year-old. >> you think, however, reading from your notes and looking at the stock market, particularly retail stocks, you believe that taxes are going up. you believe that's the stock market message, it meal why then. the blebs saying it when you look at the retailing names, the market tells you they think all the middle class market will get extended. you see order? core it's not just this consumption that's going to you're going to gets will live dent, small cap stocks are underperforming. we're going to have a hard cap gains tax, a high are def
he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax...
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in other words don't shoot the democrat santa clause which we pay for by the way to reduce the deficit or bernie sanders of the progress is understand is that democrats haven't been playing santa claus for the last eighty years just to win elections they don't play santa claus to save the nation and our economic system as we know it face of the great depression and communist revolutions around the world roosevelt had to enact the new deal just to save capitalism itself in america and the american people were willing to pay for it faced with the crisis of poverty the one nine hundred sixty s. and the hardships senior citizens are facing upon retirement l.b.j. enacted the great society and medicare because the people wanted gifts from santa claus but because people needed help and providing for the general welfare is according to our constitution one of the main purposes for which our government itself was created and despite what limbaugh o'reilly and other con say providing student loan relief isn't a gift it's a necessity now that outstanding student loan is topped up trillion dollars
in other words don't shoot the democrat santa clause which we pay for by the way to reduce the deficit or bernie sanders of the progress is understand is that democrats haven't been playing santa claus for the last eighty years just to win elections they don't play santa claus to save the nation and our economic system as we know it face of the great depression and communist revolutions around the world roosevelt had to enact the new deal just to save capitalism itself in america and the...
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that begins to reduce your deficit right there. so it's win/win. >> terry, i got to say, this is music to my ears. i read your column. i really liked it. you say it's the jobs crisis that needs to be addressed right away. you say lowering unemployment is probably the single most important thing we can do to reduce the federal budget deficit over the next few years. no complaints from me. no argument there. i'm just wondering, though, where were these criticisms of president obama last year? i went through your press releases from last year. and i have them in front of me. it's domestic violence, marriage equality, war on women, richard murdoch, love your body day, abortion ban, war on women, abortion, i mean, on and on and on. i don't see anything in here that talks about the unemployment crisis. why now? >> actually, we have been talking about the unemployment crisis. i'll send you all the materials that we've put out about that previously. one of the things that we actually spent an enormous amount of time and resources on last y
that begins to reduce your deficit right there. so it's win/win. >> terry, i got to say, this is music to my ears. i read your column. i really liked it. you say it's the jobs crisis that needs to be addressed right away. you say lowering unemployment is probably the single most important thing we can do to reduce the federal budget deficit over the next few years. no complaints from me. no argument there. i'm just wondering, though, where were these criticisms of president obama last...
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howard's become a deficit hawk. i think howard and i would disagree probably on some of the elements of what constitutes -- >> no, but he's saying it's not a disaster if it happens. >> well, i was going to get to that point. the fiscal cliff itself, howard is right, it's a slope. on day one the economy does not collapse and go into recession. but i worry a lot about the markets. the market reaction to going over the cliff, particularly if we go over the cliff in disarray where there's really no plan. everything's broken down. nobody knows where anybody is. i think that could be pretty ugly in the markets. having said that, my own view is, that going over the fiscal cliff is only the second worst thing that can happen. the worst thing that can happen would be for congress to simply kick the can down the road on everything. >> that's exactly right. >> extend all the taxes, extend all the spending, let life go merrily on the way it is. we cannot let that happen. it is time to address the deficit. and if going over the
howard's become a deficit hawk. i think howard and i would disagree probably on some of the elements of what constitutes -- >> no, but he's saying it's not a disaster if it happens. >> well, i was going to get to that point. the fiscal cliff itself, howard is right, it's a slope. on day one the economy does not collapse and go into recession. but i worry a lot about the markets. the market reaction to going over the cliff, particularly if we go over the cliff in disarray where...
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the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically, i don't think we are going to get it done tomorrow. >> the white house is using all social media resources to get the message out and put pressure on the republicans. >> today, i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress, write them an e-mail, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using the hash tag my 2 k, not y2 k. >> the president was laughing about you the strategy, seriously effective. the my2k was one of the top trends on twitter all day long. republicans aren't too happy. they are getting outflanked. >> if the president wants to reach an agreement, he n
the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically, i don't think we are going to get it done tomorrow. >> the white house is using all social media resources to get the message out and put pressure on...
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jobs went down, the deficit went up. we also know, reverend al, from the nonpartisan congressional office, that those tax breaks for the very wealthy people have virtually no impact on jobs and economic growth and that the proposals the president has made, both the middle class tax extension, plus his small business tax cut, taken together do a lot more than you would get in terms of job growth from providing the folks at the very top with this bonus tax break. so you've got to look at the president's entire plan, both the investment in our infrastructure as well as middle class tax relief and small business tax relief and that is the jobs plan for the future and no matter what republicans say, the reality is that at the end of the day they are looking out for the folks at the very top. we know from our own history. >> yeah. >> that history is bankrupt. >> and these are things we need. if you look at what hurricane did to new york and new jersey, we certainly need to work on the infrastructure. congressman chris van holl
jobs went down, the deficit went up. we also know, reverend al, from the nonpartisan congressional office, that those tax breaks for the very wealthy people have virtually no impact on jobs and economic growth and that the proposals the president has made, both the middle class tax extension, plus his small business tax cut, taken together do a lot more than you would get in terms of job growth from providing the folks at the very top with this bonus tax break. so you've got to look at the...
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plan to capitol hill today. >> i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know, does that approach include the government spending less money? >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats. executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in a negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement was reachable. >> i'm hopeful, but i wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative republican is now suggesting that while negotiations continue on whether the wealthy to pay more, congress should stop tax rates from going up on the middle class now. >> we're not going to raise taxes on those people, and i think we ought to go ahead and make that abundantly clear to everybody and take it out of the negotiation. >> reporter: bott
plan to capitol hill today. >> i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know, does that approach include the government spending less money? >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats. executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least...
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the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is felt universally by your colleagues? we know a couple of them have bolted from that but you are going to hold in lock step on that position? >>guest: there is a universality in our conference with 240 of us in the house of representatives so there are 240 different opinions but by and large the majority of us firmly believe raising tax rates is counterproductive and doesn't solve the problem. >>neil: always a pleasure, sir, thank you. take the money and run? not quite but quite a run of companies hiking dividends. and disney is the latest and it will prob
the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is...
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as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided government means that neither democrats nor republicans will be able to pass legislation along strictly partisan lines. we cannot tax our way back to budget surpluses and economic prosperity without major spending cuts and entitle 347b9 reforms we will continue running a huge deficit regardless of what anyone does on either side. for every dollar of revenue you give him, he'll give you $2.50 of spending cuts. if he gave you that on spending cuts, it would be $850 billon a year would you do that? >> the president has said a lot of things, but what counts is what he's willing to put on the table and so
as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided...
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plan to capitol hill today. >> i'm very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our defic deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know does that approach include the government spending less money. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats, executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement is reachable. >> i'm hopeful but i wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative republican is suggesting while negotiations continue on whether the wealthy should pay more, congress should stop tax rates from going up on the middle class now. >> we're not going to raise taxes on those people and i think we ought to go ahead and make that abundantly clear to anybody and take them out of the negotiation. >> reporter: bottom line, no de
plan to capitol hill today. >> i'm very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our defic deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know does that approach include the government spending less money. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats, executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least...
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to capitol hill today. >> i'm open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know if it includes the government spending less money. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious cuts. >> reporter: white house leaders are meeting with boehner and top republicans. at least one analyst thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in a negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement was reachable. >> i'm hopeful but don't put me down anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative republican is now suggesting while negotiations continue on whether the wealthy should pay more, congress should stop tax rates from going up on the middle class now. >> we're not going to raise taxes on those people. i think we ought to go ahead and make that abundantly clear to everybody and take them out of the negotiations. >> reporter: bottom line, no deal yet. both sides are still talking. and both sides signaling that they're willing to give up something to get
to capitol hill today. >> i'm open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know if it includes the government spending less money. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious cuts. >> reporter: white house leaders are meeting with boehner and top republicans. at least one analyst thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in a negotiation like this and everybody was purporting...
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>> we had 18 debt an deficit commissions since ronald reagan became president in 1981. in more than half of those, medicaid, medicare an social security were supposed to be part of fixing the debt and deficit, it never happened. if they kick the can down the road again without fixing entitlements in the process, entitlements still won't get fixed. >> we asked you to comment on the news and then sometimes you make news. the news about you, it says you are considering running in a primary to challenge saxby chambliss. are you any closer to a season? tell me what you're thinking and who is encouraging you to do that. >> well, you know, i said all along, no i'm not going to do this. i've been dismissive. in the past couple days, a number more prominent names have been calling and saying shy do it. i feel i owe them more consideration. i'm not closer to thinking i will do it, but i'm thinking about it more. my wife is adamant if i do it, i will be buried in the backyard before i announce. i think saxby chambliss, it's time for him to be primaried. >> your wife will bury you
>> we had 18 debt an deficit commissions since ronald reagan became president in 1981. in more than half of those, medicaid, medicare an social security were supposed to be part of fixing the debt and deficit, it never happened. if they kick the can down the road again without fixing entitlements in the process, entitlements still won't get fixed. >> we asked you to comment on the news and then sometimes you make news. the news about you, it says you are considering running in a...
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for those of us that realize barack obama owns the economy, the deficit, owns everything, and as things get worse you can blame him for his failed policies. but if they're going to go back, in this case tom hartman is going to blame ronald reagan -- well, there's never any hope of not blaming george bush. listen to this. >> black friday in reality is a symptom of the plight that 30 years of reaganomics brought to america. we've been steadily, the last 30 years, watching the destruction of organized labor, labor unions. we have black friday today because the wealthy elite have strangled their workers for 32 years. ever since ronald reagan's election. >> sean: forget those eight years of clinton and four years of obama, it's reagan's fault. it's reagan's fault that on black friday people are killing themselves at victoria's secret. >> they're going after capitalism. the kids are being taught this stuff in school. it really is incredible. the crisis of capitalism. that's really what they're after. that's a core issue. >> sean: yeah, but there's a common theme, that all the troubles in the
for those of us that realize barack obama owns the economy, the deficit, owns everything, and as things get worse you can blame him for his failed policies. but if they're going to go back, in this case tom hartman is going to blame ronald reagan -- well, there's never any hope of not blaming george bush. listen to this. >> black friday in reality is a symptom of the plight that 30 years of reaganomics brought to america. we've been steadily, the last 30 years, watching the destruction of...
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to do serious long-term debt and deficit reduction you have to do entitlement reform. what this president is feeling is the popular sensibility is polls show the majority of americans don't even want to raise the age on medicare from 65 to 67 and they are using that so they don't have to do serious reform but you cannot control the debt or the deficit without serious in title and reform. medicare is going to come crashing down unless you do something period. dick durbin knows that. the liberal democratic senators signed off on the simpson-bowles proposal but right now he is saying i don't want to do that as part of the fiscal cliff solution. let's take off until next year. dennis: thank you for being with us. cheryl: fiscal cliff survival kit. today it is your home addition. new talk but washington made do away with the tax break for home mortgage deduction or change the calculation and hit high income earners. the managing partner of mortgage banking solutions joins me from austin, texas with his fiscal cliff survival tips. thank you for being with us on our series th
to do serious long-term debt and deficit reduction you have to do entitlement reform. what this president is feeling is the popular sensibility is polls show the majority of americans don't even want to raise the age on medicare from 65 to 67 and they are using that so they don't have to do serious reform but you cannot control the debt or the deficit without serious in title and reform. medicare is going to come crashing down unless you do something period. dick durbin knows that. the liberal...
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this will not make a dent in the deficit. here to disagree with me is christian dorsey from the economic policy institute. christian, thank you so much for coming back to the show. you are always a spirited debate partner. tell me why you like this. >> i'll tell you, melissa, to me this is not so much about the revenue that it would raise but about the message and principle it stand for, that we can't in this country have a situation where people are making millions of dollars effectively paying lower tax rates than america's middle class families. the principle of this, of this rule is actually what's most important. the revenue that it raises, it is important because it is not chump change but it is not in of itself going to change our deficit conversation but the principle is one that is extremely important. liz: but you're talking about wealthier people. well thinker people pay a higher average tax rate. everybody pulls out the stat that they want to look at. if you look at average tax rate of the top 1%, it is 23%, almos
this will not make a dent in the deficit. here to disagree with me is christian dorsey from the economic policy institute. christian, thank you so much for coming back to the show. you are always a spirited debate partner. tell me why you like this. >> i'll tell you, melissa, to me this is not so much about the revenue that it would raise but about the message and principle it stand for, that we can't in this country have a situation where people are making millions of dollars effectively...
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shy add, chris, that another really important part of this conversation in addition to long term deficit reduction is making sure that we get sustained economic recovery. we saw some good numbers today, but we want to make sure that we sustain that recovery. and extending middle class text cuts is part of it, but so is investing in our infrastructure, so are other elements of the president's jobs plan that should be part of this overall agreement. >> we have seen several liberal democrats to say that it is better to go off that cliff than to get a bad deal. and i'm wondering if you agree because it seems like the ceos who came out of the meeting with the president yesterday were most worried or at least seriously worried about the effect of not getting a deal on time and the effect that will have on the economy. >> we absolutely want to avoid going over the fiscal cliff because it would be a big drag on the economy. >> but are you willing to do that? >> what we're willing to do is come up with a package that both accelerates economic recovery, but also begins to reduce the long term defi
shy add, chris, that another really important part of this conversation in addition to long term deficit reduction is making sure that we get sustained economic recovery. we saw some good numbers today, but we want to make sure that we sustain that recovery. and extending middle class text cuts is part of it, but so is investing in our infrastructure, so are other elements of the president's jobs plan that should be part of this overall agreement. >> we have seen several liberal democrats...
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it doesn't add to the deficit. in fact, it needs to be -- if any change needs to be made to it, it needs to be on the own freestanding. social security is one of the greatest programs this country has ever produced. it helps literally millions and millions of senior citizens and people on disability and people who receive survivor benefits and it's a great program and we should continue to support that program. we don't need to mess with it. when we do want to reform it, it needs to be something that will preserve benefits for people. and allows the program to continue. it's a solid program and it doesn't need to be in these budget entanglements. i hope americans really get the fact -- some people say, well, ok, you're right social security doesn't add to the deficit. let's talk about it anyway. let's talk about it for a minute anyway even though it shouldn't be considered. here's what could be said, mr. speaker, by someone who wants to defend the excellent program known as social security. they might say shouldn't
it doesn't add to the deficit. in fact, it needs to be -- if any change needs to be made to it, it needs to be on the own freestanding. social security is one of the greatest programs this country has ever produced. it helps literally millions and millions of senior citizens and people on disability and people who receive survivor benefits and it's a great program and we should continue to support that program. we don't need to mess with it. when we do want to reform it, it needs to be...
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it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficits. >> white house spokesman jay carney broke new ground declaring today the president does want spending cuts, listed in his budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> hold up the budget and say democrats on capitol hill vote for including the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those? >> yes. i think that, and i know that democrats accept that this has to be it, a balanced package, that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> months ago, the budget carney held up was voted down by the entire senate. 99-0. meaning no democratic support. earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is o
it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficits. >> white house spokesman jay carney broke new ground declaring today the president does want spending cuts, listed in his budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> hold up the budget and say democrats on capitol hill vote for including the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those?...
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we want to raise -- deficit. we want to raise taxes, cut defense -- we're willing to do all four of those things. megyn: marc, how does taking money out of medicare and giving it to obamacare cut spending? [laughter] >> it doesn't. >> that's not what i said, megyn. that's not what i said. >> it doesn't cut spending. they cut money out of medicare and put it to fund obamacare, but president obama has not put forward a plan to deal with the entitlement crisis. he put forward no plan on social security, medicare or medicaid, which he himself admits is what is driving the debt and driving the real fiscal crisis. so they have put forward no plans whatsoever, and when paul ryan and others have put forward our plans, they've pilied them for it. i'm glad president obama's meeting with simon. i'd love for him to meet with john john boehner. [laughter] megyn: simon's got a lot of good ideas. were you in that meeting with the unions and the progressive groups that the president had -- >> no. i was in a different meeting. th
we want to raise -- deficit. we want to raise taxes, cut defense -- we're willing to do all four of those things. megyn: marc, how does taking money out of medicare and giving it to obamacare cut spending? [laughter] >> it doesn't. >> that's not what i said, megyn. that's not what i said. >> it doesn't cut spending. they cut money out of medicare and put it to fund obamacare, but president obama has not put forward a plan to deal with the entitlement crisis. he put forward no...
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we are talking about deficit reduction, and the president is proposing new spending at top of all the other spending. republicans going into the deficit reduction talks talking about another dividend tax cut is something like that. a very poisonous way to start since the negotiations between two sites. the second thing that is important here is how we are viewing these jobless benefits. the administration is firming in in terms of job creation. that is not what they are. gerri: this is a study they did it, extending jobless benefits would create 300,000 jobs. i had to read it twice to figure out what they were talking about . and it still made no sense to me. explain the contorted logic to work here. >> thee're saying by putting money into the pockets of unemployed people that will deal to spend it on rant and consumer goods which will create jobs in the real-estate industry in the retail industry. the problem is a does not take into account that the people have to look for jobs that would also be doing that. double counting the money. the difficult thing is what we are talking about
we are talking about deficit reduction, and the president is proposing new spending at top of all the other spending. republicans going into the deficit reduction talks talking about another dividend tax cut is something like that. a very poisonous way to start since the negotiations between two sites. the second thing that is important here is how we are viewing these jobless benefits. the administration is firming in in terms of job creation. that is not what they are. gerri: this is a study...
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it's not responsible for the deficit and debts. neither is social security. you're right, medicare and social security have long-term fiscal challenges. they need to be dealt with. i don't agree with connect connecting those to the deficit and debt program not created by those programs. >> i want to switch gears. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee i want to talk about benghazi. let me quote. part of what you said, there should be a laser-like focus on going after those responsible. but in the blur of partisan wrangling over talking points we seem to have lost sight of the vital objective. some on capitol hill and elsewhere seem determined to go after another bright diplomat ambassador susan rice. i want to talk about finding those responsible. the fbi seasonisn't saying much. from what i know we have heard zero about arrests. what can you tell us about these perpetrators? >> well, i can tell you that we still have a lot of work to do. the intelligence community is pursuing all of the leads. there is nothing that i want more. this is true i
it's not responsible for the deficit and debts. neither is social security. you're right, medicare and social security have long-term fiscal challenges. they need to be dealt with. i don't agree with connect connecting those to the deficit and debt program not created by those programs. >> i want to switch gears. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee i want to talk about benghazi. let me quote. part of what you said, there should be a laser-like focus on going after those...
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budget deficit by over $1 billion over the next five years. . that is unpaid for as well. so again there are many ways that immigration can be looked at to reduce our budget deficit, and many concepts of comprehensive immigration reform, either through fees paid by those who violate the law, penalties paid, increased taxes going forward for those who would have to pay taxes under immigration reform, would actually reduce our deficit, but here we are with a solitary idea around immigration that forces all members of this body to weigh two valuable programs against one another. and at the same time cost taxpayers over $1 billion over the next five years. it's a choice that congress shouldn't face. there are also very legitimate concerns that not only does this bill weigh two valuable programs , but in fact it's a backdoor way to reduce the number of legal immigrants. there should be no hesitation in saying it by reducing the number of legal immigrants we will increase the number of illegal immigrants. so again this bill will likely increase the nu
budget deficit by over $1 billion over the next five years. . that is unpaid for as well. so again there are many ways that immigration can be looked at to reduce our budget deficit, and many concepts of comprehensive immigration reform, either through fees paid by those who violate the law, penalties paid, increased taxes going forward for those who would have to pay taxes under immigration reform, would actually reduce our deficit, but here we are with a solitary idea around immigration that...
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. >> eric: obama have to advertise he promised to -- [ laughter ] -- cut the deficit in half? >> dana: where will it end? >> kimberly: we want an apology. >> dana: super pac ad with apology. >> kimberly: deliberately dezeed the american people. >> bob: that is not true. >> dana: we'll ponder that. coming up, 5 a 50 million reasons you might not want to win tonight's powerball jackpot. brian has all of those next on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor tool helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] without feeling queasy. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. morning because my back hurt so bad. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if my back'
. >> eric: obama have to advertise he promised to -- [ laughter ] -- cut the deficit in half? >> dana: where will it end? >> kimberly: we want an apology. >> dana: super pac ad with apology. >> kimberly: deliberately dezeed the american people. >> bob: that is not true. >> dana: we'll ponder that. coming up, 5 a 50 million reasons you might not want to win tonight's powerball jackpot. brian has all of those next on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male...
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raging deficits, not enough revenues and we needed to cut some spending, too. we needed to make sure that people got their unemployment benefits. tip o'neill realized that he was speaker of the house. not speaker of the democrats. and he had that magic. the magic to him was 218 votes. and that's what i wish john boehner would do. because if he took a page out of tip o'neill's book, we'll be off this fiscal cliff and i compliment congressman cole for his courage in saying, you know, the president's given us 98%, essentially, of what we want. let's take it and we'll argue over the millionaires and the billionaires later. >> you know, you're probably one of the really key leading progressives in the united states senate. i've watched your heroic campaigns every six years. i'm walls in always in wonder of your ability to stick to principles and win big in the biggest state. how is this going over, the view you're taking now, which we're all in this together to some extent? it has to be a 60/40, something like that, deal. how is that going over with your colleagues
raging deficits, not enough revenues and we needed to cut some spending, too. we needed to make sure that people got their unemployment benefits. tip o'neill realized that he was speaker of the house. not speaker of the democrats. and he had that magic. the magic to him was 218 votes. and that's what i wish john boehner would do. because if he took a page out of tip o'neill's book, we'll be off this fiscal cliff and i compliment congressman cole for his courage in saying, you know, the...
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i mean deficit spending is a violation of the state constitution. do they care about that in sacramento? they blow right by it. neil: but you don't think what is going on here now, governor, governor davis in a second, is a harbinger? in other words maybe voters here as they have elsewhere, rightly or wrongly are saying you know what? we cut a lot or tried to cut. we never make much progress on it. i guess only thing to do to avoid fiscal armageddon is just hike taxes. we hope it is not on us. we'll start going after the rich. >> that is number one class warfare. and number two you keep piling up the debt. ultimately you're in a position, as we are in today at the federal level, where most of the debt isn't even on the books. neil: that's right. >> i mean what is said to be the national debt is about one fifth of the actual national debt. neil: you're right. unfunded liabilities and medicare, medicaid. >> medicare, medicaid, neil: you only boom your way out of that, right? governor davis, what do you see now that could boom us out of this? because t
i mean deficit spending is a violation of the state constitution. do they care about that in sacramento? they blow right by it. neil: but you don't think what is going on here now, governor, governor davis in a second, is a harbinger? in other words maybe voters here as they have elsewhere, rightly or wrongly are saying you know what? we cut a lot or tried to cut. we never make much progress on it. i guess only thing to do to avoid fiscal armageddon is just hike taxes. we hope it is not on us....
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if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. >> let your member of congress know. send that message said the president. the american people did. so many american people did that congressional websites and phone lines crashed after the president's speech. house phone circuits were so overwhelmed that an alert went out to members of congress that if they were expecting any really important phone calls they should try using a different phone. if you tried to visit the websites for john boehner or michele bachmann after the president's call to action, you just got a server to busy message. >>> last year, in the fall, the president went and did it again. the president went on a multi-state barn storming campaign style tour to push for the passage of his jobs bill. again, he asked the american people to get involved in that fight directly. he asked the american people to talk to congress. >>> i want you to call. i want you to e-mail. i want you to tweet. i
if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. >> let your member of congress know. send that message said the president. the american people did. so many american people did that congressional websites and phone lines crashed after the president's speech. house phone circuits were so overwhelmed that an alert went out to members of congress that if they were...
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they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the table don't act like we are not budging. >> steve: tim geithner is showing up. boehner and geithner and company come over and you better have a plan. more on this later on. >> gretchen: now the rest of the headlines. gitmodetainees. are they coming back to america now. or feinstein said possibility. the story came to light after fox news turned up a document. feinstein's office put it on line. that was his first executive order when he was elected president. he said he would close gitmo. it is still open. abbas's turn to ask for palestinian statehood. expected to get his wish . he wants palestine to be upda
they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the...
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mystery when 60% at least of the american people think that's an appropriate way to help balance the deficit. >> now, speaker boehner keeps telling us that he's put revenues on the table in form of closing loopholes, but democrats have not offered anything in terms of those earned entitlements. now, i know you said earlier that these are not connected issues, but are you and your colleagues willing to give any ground in terms of cuts, say, to medicare, medicaid, or social security or something? >> you know, this is somewhat laughable because, again, the republicans spent the entire campaign talking about how democrats slashed $716 billion from medicare and governor romney said i'm not going to take that money out of medicare. now they're demanding we take money out of the medicare. this is another example where their message keeps changing. it's not consistent and they're just relying on the same amnesia of the american people to let them get away with it. >> very briefly, sir. do we think there will be a deal or will we hit the cliff and go over it 1234. >> i'm getting more and more pessimi
mystery when 60% at least of the american people think that's an appropriate way to help balance the deficit. >> now, speaker boehner keeps telling us that he's put revenues on the table in form of closing loopholes, but democrats have not offered anything in terms of those earned entitlements. now, i know you said earlier that these are not connected issues, but are you and your colleagues willing to give any ground in terms of cuts, say, to medicare, medicaid, or social security or...